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Post by beryll70 on Nov 17, 2008 17:37:08 GMT -5
Hi Shytalk and everyone. I see you used to live in Well Lane, Childwall shytalk. I had a friend that lived in Well Lane with his mum and his sister, his name was Terry Spruce, do you know him?
He has been in the Falkland Islands for many years and was awarded the MBE.
I used to go to Rudston Road School and later to Childwall Valley High School.
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Post by shytalk on Nov 18, 2008 9:41:36 GMT -5
Hi Beryl. My family lived at 6 Well Lane when I was born in 1938, we left when I was very young and moved to Coxhead Farm. I was too young to know anybody there.
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Post by capstick on Feb 5, 2010 12:21:01 GMT -5
Hi All, I’m a surviving member of the Capstick family although I never lived at the farm or even remember going. (I was born in 1956 just as they were about to knock it down). My great grandfather Roger Capstick moved to Coc-kshead farm between 1891 and 1901 along with his wife Elizabeth and children Hannah, Mary, Jane, Thomas and James (my grandfather). They left a farm in Westmoreland called Low park. In the 1891 census there is another son also called Roger but I cannot find him anywhere in any subsequent census. By 1911 the head of the household is Elizabeth, my widowed great grandmother. My grandfather James Capstick eventually took over the farm and married Margaret Rawlinson, who I am lead to believe worked as a housekeeper at Gatacre Hall (any info on this would be much appreciated). James had three children, Edward, Dorothy and Muriel. Alas the only survivor is my Aunty Mue who still lives locally. I would like to find out more about what happened to the two Roger Capsticks (father and son) as my Uncle Ted, now sadly deceased did mention that something untoward had happened in the family but I had understood that it occurred during their tenure of Low Park in Westmoreland. My mum would tell us tales of the farm and what a happy time she had as a child growing up in Belle Vale and Gatacre. The only downsides were the name of the farm which always caused great hilarity when read out at school and the family name had a few interesting adulterations, “Cap-on-stick” being one of them that could be quoted here. The Capsticks were good farmers, but very poor photographers and we have only one picture of the farm and that is just a doorway in the background. I would much appreciate it if any photo’s you have in electronic form could be sent to brian.smalley@brocade.com. I’ll keep digging. Regards Brian Smalley
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Post by coxhead on Aug 10, 2010 7:51:10 GMT -5
Hi All, Any more news regarding coxhead/jacksons/tysons farm? I remember a true story of when I was about 6 years old,my uncle, Harry Darlington who lived in the prefabs (Lineside Rd.) decided to help himself to a few chickens from farmer Tyson, but farmer Tyson heard him and came out with a shotgun,firing into the air,my uncle Harry took of quick smart,and did not try that again. Who remembers the co-op where the money was put into tubes, then it was sucked up into the offices above, I note, here in Australia where I live a company has started to use this method again,which leads me to ask, why did they ever do away with it?.
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Post by coxhead on Aug 10, 2010 8:02:57 GMT -5
Hi, Should anybody who lives in Gatacre, and is interested in coxhead farm,perhaps they could ask the manager of the Cats Whiskers for the photo's he had of the farm, and i would love to know where he got them from. Regards Tom
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Post by johnkw on Dec 17, 2010 15:16:35 GMT -5
Coxhead asked: "Re: coxhead farm - 12 on Sept 25, 2008, 9:29pm a quick mention, does anybody know how the farm got its name i.e. Coxhead? as i have done all censuses for the farm, and there is no family with that name.( 1841 to 1901)" Well, if you wait long enough in life, you usually get an answer ! "The ancient water-mill of the Hospitallers has disappeared, but a house called Peck Mill House, supposed to have been connected with it, survived till the beginning of last century. (fn. 5) Dam meadows and Damcroft are names of fields near Naylor's Bridge, where also are the Beanbridge meadows. Other notable field names are Monk's meadow (west of Lee Park), Causeway field, Hemp meadow, Tanhouse meadow, Shadows, Winamoor, and Creacre. Coxhead farm is of ancient date; an old form of the spelling is Cocksshed." It has obviously had this or a similar name for centuries: "Nehemiah is described as an 'honest good fellow' by William Blundell of Little Crosby, but was most of his life a heavy drinker; going 'merry to bed' one night he was found dead next morning; Trans. Hist. Soc. xxxvi, 37. His son and heir James, according to the same authority, was 'adorned in the days of the usurpation with the virtues then in fashion; he was a singular zealot and a very sufficient preacher'; but after the Restoration the 'mask fell off,' and he ruined his health by excessive drinking. Riding home after a bout at Warrington he fell from his horse, sustaining injuries from which he died a little later; ibid. He recorded a pedigree in 1664; Dugdale, Visit. (Chet. Soc.), 57. His will was proved in 1666. The will of his widow, Deborah Chandler, was dated and proved in 1686; she desired to be buried in the chancel of Childwall church next the body of her late husband, James Brettargh. There are mentioned her daughters Hitchmough, Hanna, Phoebe Potter; her grandchildren, Thomas Brettargh, Edward and Phoebe Richardson, and Deborah, wife of Mordecai Cocker of Cockshead." Both of the above extracts are from "A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 3 (1907), William Farrer & J. Brownbill (editors)" - you'll find two complete by me postings from this very interesting historical volume in the "Memories of Gateacre and Lee park" section. I'd previously posted some items in that section on the history of Aymestry Court on Acrefield Road (which runs from the top of Gateacre Brow to modern Woolton). This fascinating book reveals the distant origin of that road's name, too: "John son of Robert del Brooks had a grant from Hugh son of Roger de Woolton, of land in the Nether Branderth; and in 1334 his son William had from the same Hugh land below Carketon, stretching as far as the Pughel, and in the Hare Butts. John del Brooks acquired from John son of Fulk de Woolton land in the New Branderth, lying partly by the Out Lane, and from Robert Brown land in the Middlegate field abutting on: Carketon and on the Poughel, and in the Long Farthings stretching from the Broadgate to the Puahel field. In 1317 he had a grant from John son of Richard, of Much Woolton, of land near the Swynne gates abutting towards the Crossfield and in Pughel; from Robert son of John, son of Alan, of land in the Blake Branderth, abutting towards the Pilote field, and towards the Portway, and in Aclaw field Branderth, abutting towards Aclaw field and towards the Portway; and from Alice daughter of Adam son of William, a plot in the New Branderth, abutting towards the Pughel and towards the Portway. Norris D. (B.M.), 304, 309, 314, 317; Norris D. (Rydal Hall), F. 50, 56, 72; Hornby chapel deeds. Aclaw field is probably represented by Acre field. An earlier grant is that from William son of John of Much Woolton, to Richard, son of William del Brooks, of a portion of land extending 'from the great street to the corner of the hedge,' and abutting on the Out Lane ditch; also land in Akelou field on the higher side of the street; 'and let it be known that Richard son of William and his heirs are bound by agreement to make the enclosure from the Balschae to Akelouysfeldiseynde for the said William [grantor] in perpetuity'; Norris D. (B.M.), 291, 311; Norris D. (Rydal Hall), F. 41." Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! JohnKW
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Post by johnkw on Dec 17, 2010 19:11:37 GMT -5
Just to enlarge on the post above: Say 'Cocker's shed' at conversational speed and it easily becomes 'Coxhead'; Say 'Akelouysfeld' (with the 'A' pronounced as 'eh') at conversational speed and it equally easily over time becomes 'Acresfield'. Modern examples of this verbal transformation process might be Leicester ('Lester') and Worcester ('Worster'). Or even 'Li'pool' for 'Liverpool' ! JohnW
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Post by coxhead on Mar 23, 2011 5:42:22 GMT -5
Hi John, A very interesting thread, you must have put a fair bit of research in to find out the details posted. Thank God for people with patients. Tom
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Post by coxhead on Mar 24, 2011 6:23:39 GMT -5
I remember as a kid climbing through the window of the orphanage/child centre at Wambo lane with my cousin, we only wanted to play with the toys inside, but got caught by the women who ran the place, they said we are going to call the police, which frightened the living daylights out of us both, so we kicked the womans ankles, who yelped, and they let go in pain, we ran to Coxhead farm hay loft, and hid there for hours, only venturing out when we got hungry. Without doubt, the best time of my life. Does anyone remember the swings and slides near Belle Vale school, ( might be Lineside Rd.) I spent hours there nearly everyday, and my favourite ride was the roundabout. Happy happy days.
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Post by bartie on Mar 16, 2013 11:35:07 GMT -5
Hello all, I am new to this board but found your thread when googling Mordecai Cockett. He is my husband's 9 great grandfather and I would love to know more about the farm. How old are the buildings? Is there a history anywhere? Is Cockett and Coxhead linked?
regards
Su
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Post by coxhead on Dec 28, 2013 4:34:42 GMT -5
Hi, The farm was built in 1798, I have done the censuses for the farm from 1841, but the name you mention does not ring a bell,( thou I lost the details so may be wrong) Please read further into the previous post perhaps the answer is there.
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Post by coxhead on Dec 28, 2013 4:45:56 GMT -5
Hi Sue, The above posts appear to have your answer, it looks like the farm or area was linked to Mordecai Cockett. Tom
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Post by tippo on Jan 7, 2015 7:32:43 GMT -5
Hi Tom, Interesting to read your post. My dad worked for Harrison Jackson for many years. We lived in a house in Well Lane when I was born in 1938 and moved to Coxhead soon after. I remember the cell in the attic but had never heard the story of the hanging. I never saw any signs of it being haunted either. I too have fond memories of the place it was a great place to grow up and we were never short of food like some people were in the wartime years. The only picture I have of the place is one I got from your cousin John if you have others I would appreciate them my email address is sc0use14@hotmail.com. That is a zero in the addy not the letter o. I met John last time I was in the UK, he is a very interesting man and a great writer. After my return to the USA I had some ill health and lost touch with a lot of people. give him my regards if you hear from him. Chris Jones
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Post by tippo on Jan 9, 2015 18:47:52 GMT -5
HI, I have read with great interest of coxhead farm I used to knock about there we used to go to a dilapidated mansion at the end of Grange Lane were it meets Cookoo Lane the orchard was full of fruit and inside the old house there was beautiful freezes of fresco's.?. I also used to fish at Jacksons pit / Childwall Cesterns ? I 'm hoping to install a photo I took while on one of my fishing trips in 1949, I think its the best photo I have ever taken , I hope it creates a bit of interest 1949 I was sixteen and lived in Woolton Click on photo twice to enlargeattachment id="3" thumbnail="1"]
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Post by alanwilson04 on Feb 15, 2015 20:50:15 GMT -5
Hi Tippo, Did you ever take any photos of the mansion? I have written a book about it and would happyily give you a copy of the book if you could share some photos with me. My email is alandwilson@gmail.com.
Thanks
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