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Post by ken on Apr 16, 2008 10:06:51 GMT -5
Thanks to all for those great replies. Unfortunately my Broadband connection has gone down, thanks to a fault on the BT line, so I'm having to use the old steam-powered Dial Up, which is v-e-r-y s-l-o-w and goes on the phone bill! So I'm having to keep my replies to a minimum until it gets fixed,
Regards, Ken
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Post by ken on Apr 20, 2008 3:40:56 GMT -5
Hi Johnkw, Some memories to conjure with, there! I remember we used to call Mr.Hughes "Yosser", but not to his face! I'm still having connection problems, keeping my messages short, so I think I'll go cable and join the 21st Century!
Ken
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Post by ken on Apr 20, 2008 3:47:21 GMT -5
Hi Jean, I can't pretend to understand the reasoning behind the closure of the Comp, but it is mentioned in the Gateacre Society Newsletters. Apparently the site is earmarked for 114 houses with an "amenity area". I haven't got any pics of Joseph Williams School or Endbrook Road, I'm afraid, just the trusty old 1959 map. I believe Paul & Mike McCartney attended the school for a time,
Regards, Ken
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Post by jean1954 on Apr 20, 2008 8:34:19 GMT -5
Hi Ken, It is a shame about "The Comp' closing, I suppose you cannot stop progress, it seems that 'our memories' are turning to dust, - glad those ugly blocks of flats were blown up, but now the Comp..that's why it's so important you have photos and other memoribilia of what went before... re:The McCartney boys, I know Mike McCartney went to J.W, I met him when I was a prefect, he returned to the school for a visit..none of us kids knew who he was, until a teacher told us. Thanks again for the information, I was juat re reading all that has been posted here, and I must say if you had'nt replied as you have to all of us, this site would have 'dried up' long ago, I think we should rename you "The Gateacre Guru" your imput is appreciated greatly. kind regards Jean.
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Post by june on Apr 21, 2008 17:17:25 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I haven't been on the internet for a while so I've missed quite a bit of whats been posted here and just caught up. I remember Mr much, God was he odd! Mr Horrocks was my first lesson on my first day, I have to say he was a monster and I made up many illnesses to stay off school that first year due to him. He terrified me and many of my class. Ken, your photo's are a memory lane for me. I had an aunt lived in Churchill house and a friend in Atlee house. Luckily I never needed the lifts for either. Welcome John, yes Ken should publish a book of his own. I have quite a few Liverpool books and love them, even the ones of Victorian times, I can't get enough of them. I love my city and love the people, who are one of a kind. Hi to Jean. My dad worked on the docks and I can remember him taking me to see a lot of the ships, especially the Empresses which I thought were amazing as a child. I remember a Georgina Mordaunt John, she was a friend of mine during my days of Gateacre comp. She lived in a bungalow by the Falstaff. Is she Susan's sister? Well that will have to be it from me for now. Speak to you all soon. June
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Post by ken on Apr 21, 2008 17:46:10 GMT -5
Hi Jean, Thanks for the vote of confidence! The reason I started this thread was because there was literally nothing about Lee Park estate on the Gateacre website - or anywhere else for that matter. I'm pleased that a small but valued number of ex-pat Lee Parkers have taken the time and trouble to add so many memories, going right back to pre-housing estate times. An offshoot of this are the Belle Vale & Netherley memories of life in the prefabs and on the farms, contributed by a few kind souls. Everyone has added so much to the knowledge and history of the area, and I've learned so much more as a result. I hope others will be encouraged to add their bit; I'm also hoping that someone presently living there can take a few snaps or tell us what it's like living there now,
Cheers, Ken
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Post by ken on Apr 21, 2008 18:07:52 GMT -5
Hello June, I don't suppose any of those aggressive teachers ever gave any thought as to how they would be remembered in years to come. Was Horrocks an English teacher? I remember a nutter who sometimes walked into class muttering things like "neddy, gee gee" or "talfie, talfie, what's it all about alfie"! and dropping a stack of books on his desk while we all sat very very quietly. Then there was Mr.Adams the Maths nutter. He attacked a poor lad called Dickens who was a bit "slow", dragging him around by the lapels in front of the class, pulling off buttons and forcing him to the floor on top of the rubbish pail. He also relished giving us the cane - he was a violent man!
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Post by june on Apr 22, 2008 17:17:29 GMT -5
No Ken he was a sadistic maths teacher. He stood there in front of us and could obviously see us sitting there terrified and he loved it. He seemed to stand about 8ft tall to us,(especially to me as I'm still only 4ft 11" now), and he had a mean look about him. I remember he wore a light grey suit. I think it was John who mentioned him first, thats what brought him to my mind after all these years. There was also Mrs Harold who I never liked. She was a PE teacher and as much as I liked netball she alway put a really tall girl called Ann marking me, I was convinced it was on purpose. I do have good memories too though. We had a housecraft teacher called Miss Hinks, while our stuff was cooking and we did the dishes, she made us all coffee and home made biscuits for when we had finished. We had an English teacher who's name escapes me but she used to bring her guitar in and sing folk songs to us. Mr Longworth, french, was a lovely person. Always dressed in a suit and treated us like adults and I don't recall him shouting ever. And I mustn't forget Mrs Lloyd who took us for art, she was really nice but I heard a rumour that she committed suicide, don't know if it's true though, but very sad if it is. Maybe there's someone else out there who knows! There was another teacher that we were told by someone hung himself in the lower building. I can remember him but not his name, it was about 1968/9. On a lighter note, the flats in Lee Park Avenue have been knocked down on one side of the road (By Belle Vale park) but on the other side of the road they are being left up for up to another 5 years. (Who knows how the minds work of the weird decision makers). I know it seems like the area is changing fast to the people that have moved away but really it's quite slow. That I'm afraid are my memories exhausted for tonight. So till I remember more! June
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Post by jean1954 on Apr 24, 2008 23:41:59 GMT -5
Hi all, It's so good to read more memories, especially of the Comp, teachers were so different then.. would we let our children be treated like we were? Although I think some of the standards we were taught should still be taught today..now I know I am getting old.. I remember my first day at the comp, even though I had older sisters there, one of whom was a prefect it did'nt eliviate my fears, I remember getting lost and asking someone the way, and being sent to the wrong class room, being a 1st year was pretty tough. I remember the housecraft lessons in the 'lower building' learning how to iron and cook, making a meal for a 'special teacher in the little 'house' attached, sewing our purple P.E. skirt and apron, - skills we would need when 'we girls' got married! I remember Mr Hughes he was 'cross eyed' I was never sure who he was yelling at! Mrs Lloyed the deputy head, she took great pleasure when she caned me, which was often..so many memories, and reading the ones posted here only help me to remember more, thanks for that. Looking forward to reading yours soon. regards Jean
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Post by june on Apr 26, 2008 16:35:12 GMT -5
Hi again, Remember the school meals in the comp? I didn't like many of them but it was how I first found that I liked cheese. I had always insisted I didn't like cheese, but I loved the cheese pie. Ive tried everywhere to buy it but it always has onion or bacon in. I can still smell it and it brings back happy memories. Like coffee once a week, on Thursdays I think it was. I remember making my P.E. skirt and apron too, we couldn't wait to finish the P.E. skirts because we were left to do P.E. in those awful grey knickers! My class never got to go in the house, though we never gave up hope, in fact I don't think we even got to know why it was there. Ah well! June
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Post by jean1954 on Apr 27, 2008 9:08:04 GMT -5
Hi June, I too enjoyed the meals at the comp.. I was one of the servers on my table, it was good if you had the same people each day at your table, but if you were late and had to sit were there was a vacant seat, that was pretty awful, some kids were quite mean and you missed out on anything that was nice, one of my favorite things was steam pudding and custard, but the sago..yuk I coul'nt give it away! I remember lining up outside the dining room when it was snowing, trying to be the first into the room..the food was pretty good, we did'nt need Jamie Oliver to show our cooks how to make a nourishing meal..Oh the good old days.. I too was very pleased to finish my P.E skirt and not have to do P E in my knickers..I don't remember the boys having to wear just their undies...! Jean
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Post by june on Apr 28, 2008 17:13:37 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to get the same table everyday with the same girls. Mind you, we did have 2 girls on our table that if you were new to our table they'd tell you "you don't want your dinner do you" and they weren't asking really, they were telling. They scared off quite a few from eating at the table a second time. They soon learned though that if they didn't bully, all the rest of us would give them anything we didn't like. They were only small (like me) and we used to laugh wondering were they put all that food! I used to like the scouse too and remember one day saying that I didn't want beetroot and the the two of them were almost fighting over it, it was funny to see them argue over beetroot! I loved the chocolate pudding and pink custard, I'd leave my dinner to make sure I had room for that. June
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Post by june on Apr 28, 2008 17:21:54 GMT -5
I meant to ask...does anyone remember the shops in Lee Park avenue? The chippy closed just before christmas. Mr Wong, the last owner, made the best chips. I remember going to the woolton pictures with mates in our teens and coming out and going to a chippy and getting the greasiest chips but they were lovely. We would walk home eating them. Well everytime I had Mr Wongs chips they brought back those days 30+ years ago. Where else could you get a bag of memories for a £1?
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Post by jean1954 on Apr 29, 2008 10:17:28 GMT -5
The last time I was in that 'chippy' you could buy a fish cake for 6d(pence) and a carboard container of curry & rice was 2 shillings.. so long ago, they were the best fishcakes. nothing like it ia Australia, everything here is covered in bread crumbs! I remember going to the chippy after walking home in the freezing cold from St.Stephens youth club the windows of the shop would be steamed up and the aroma of hot chips and vinager would hit you when you opened the door. Oh what simple pleasures we had back then.
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Post by jean1954 on Apr 29, 2008 10:20:18 GMT -5
The last time I was in that 'chippy' you could buy a fish cake for 6d(pence) and a carboard container of curry & rice was 2 shillings.. so long ago, they were the best fishcakes. nothing like it ia Australia, everything here is covered in bread crumbs! I remember going to the chippy after walking home in the freezing cold from St.Stephens youth club the windows of the shop would be steamed up and the aroma of hot chips and vinager would hit you when you opened the door. Oh what simple pleasures we had back then.
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